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Posté par : Intuit le 27 Oct 2008, 12:00

Où allons nous braves gens ?

Explosion de la dette US en % !!

Qui est ce public achetant la dette ???

 

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Posté par : philippulus le 27 Oct 2008, 12:32

L'argent qui ne peut, ou ne veut s'investir, dans des entreprises, compte tenu:

- des taux monétaires maintenus artificiellement bas par la création monétaire, et ce ce fait du rendement négatif sur les prêts aux entreprises

- du manque de confiance dans les bilans des entreprises, du fait des règles comptables complexes et de l'absence de visibilité sur la nature des actifs détenus (cautionnement étatique ou pas)

va donc s'investir dans la seule alternative, les bons du trésor US.

 

Pour combien de temps encore...

"La première panacée d'un gouvernement mal géré, c'est l'inflation de la devise. La deuxième, c'est la guerre. Toutes deux apportent une prospérité temporaire ; toutes deux apportent une ruine plus permanente". Hemingway --- Mon blog: http://philippulus.daily-bourse.fr/
Posté par : Ray le 27 Oct 2008, 12:56

Salut Nico

Salut Intuito

 

 

C’est pas grave Intuit , ne t’inquiéte pas le congres sait ce qu’il fait

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Ils en sont à 10 Trilliards 524 Billions !

No problem my friend !!!!!

 

The congress raised the debt limit to $9.815 trillion in september 2007

10.6 Trillions (for Fannies and Freddie) July 2008 … and October 4, 2008

The emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008” Debt ceiling = 11 Trillions 300 Billions

 

En gros  jusqu’au prochain vote du Congrés la dette peut encore monter de 776 Billions

 

C’est ça l’Amérique !

 

Et la dette détenue par le public = la dette détenue par les Etats (Chine Russie Japon etc) , par les sociétés (SWF et autres ) , les particuliers sous forme d’OATI (pour l’europe) ou autres bonds indexés sur l’inflation .

 

Finalement je pense m’orienter vers le Xanax

 

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Posté par : avril le 27 Oct 2008, 13:04

l'un des heros de la crise actuelle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mr4aYcHUOY

Posté par : avril le 27 Oct 2008, 13:07

à un tel point que les momes us le decouvrent avec les simpsonsanalyse_technique_3

Posté par : dupilon le 27 Oct 2008, 13:31

Citation : avril

à un tel point que les momes us le decouvrent avec les simpsonsanalyse_technique_3

 

 

Excellent , en effet !     forum_bourse_20

Posté par : Intuit le 27 Oct 2008, 15:33

Ah ok forum_bourse_10forum_bourse_30

 

l'hivers sera t il long ? en rectifiant la grèle de2000 ?

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Posté par : Intuit le 27 Oct 2008, 20:55

le message de Ron PAul

 

Spending the Economy into Oblivion

 

With news this week that Congress is poised to consider a new stimulus package, I am forced to again ask a question that seems silly in Washington:  How will we pay for this?

While a few Members of Congress have raised the issue, it certainly was not the primary concern of the House Budget Committee when they interviewed Ben Bernanke on Monday.  And, when they did direct this question to the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, his answer was the standard rhetoric about how Congress needed to make tough choices.  Needless to say, not many specifics were discussed.

One of the most liberal members of the House, Barney Frank, has at least volunteered something of a suggestion: “We can let Iraq take care of itself.”  This, of course, goes in the right direction, but hardly far enough.

We need to declare the facts and their obvious consequences.  The deficit of the United States is now spiraling out of control, and the recent bailout package has only made it worse.  Our crushing federal debt is one key reason behind our current economic turbulence.

As Congress begins to consider the third “stimulus package” of the year, we need to realize it is time to start setting priorities.  Priority number one should be cutting spending in foreign countries. This does not simply mean Iraq, but everywhere.

The next stimulus package is likely to include money for infrastructure.  While these investments are, constitutionally speaking, supposed to be made by state and local governments, it is not likely that Congress will suddenly begin to pay heed to the document we are all sworn to uphold.  Still, we need to acknowledge the fact that the current Congress and Administration are rushing the nation toward bankruptcy.

This being the case, we could hope they would at least come to their senses regarding our debt and foreign spending sprees.  Our nation’s foreign-held debt is at record highs and moving ever higher.  Continuing to borrow money from Red China and others in order to pay “dues” to the United Nations and run “Plan Colombia” makes no sense at all.

Our whole carrot-and-stick approach to foreign policy makes no sense.  The US government simultaneously gives money to Israel, and to Egypt.  We send AIDS money to Africa while AIDS clinics in America shut down.  “Millennium challenge” funding goes to countries which enact “market based reforms” as we push our own country further and further into a centrally planned economy.

Economic recovery will only come through financial prudence, savings and getting back to producing things of value again.  But it seems to be a foregone conclusion that we are about to enact another government initiative to “stimulate the economy.”   Instead, there should be some serious talk about cutting all of these foreign giveaway programs.  But, alas and again, we should not hold our breath.  Congress is still not close to being serious about ending its addiction to debt and spending, and is again faced with the deadly temptation to attempt to spend us out of a recession.  We should not forget that in the 1930’s those types of efforts gave us the Great Depression. 

 

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Posté par : Ray le 02 Nov 2008, 18:05

Maggot Brain 1971  analyse_technique_7


Can You Get To That

{G Clinton, Ernie Harris}
I once had a life, or rather
Life had me
I was one among many
Or at least I seemed to be
Well, I read an old quotation in a book just yesterday
Said "Gonna reap just what you sow,
The debts you make you have to pay."
Can you get to that?

Can you get (I wanna know)
I want to know if you can get to that (hey!) (get to that!)
Can you get (can you get to that)(I wanna know)
I want to know if you can get to that

I recollect with a-mixed emotions
All the good times we used to have
But you were making preparations
For the coming separation
And you blew everything we had

When you base your love on credit
And your loving days are done
Checks you signed with a-love and kisses
Later come back signed "insufficient funds"
Yeah, get to that!

Can you get (I wanna know)
I want to know if you can get to that (hey!) (get to that!)
Can you get (can you get to that)(I wanna know)
I want to know if you can get to that
(x3)

When you base your life on credit
And your loving days are done
Checks you signed with love and kisses
Later come back signed "insufficient funds"
Y'all get to that

Can you get (I wanna know)
I want to know if you can get to that (hey!) (get to that!)
Can you get (can you get to that)(I wanna know)
I want to know if you can get to that
(x2)

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Posté par : Intuit le 15 Nov 2008, 11:30

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+$40B cette semaine à $10 .58T (+/- 0.05 T ) analyse_technique_7 ( Paulson n'ayant pas encore envoyé les chiffres de vendredi) (higher le 6 novembre $10.62T)

 

 

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il y a encore de la marge analyse_technique_15 et probablement quelques bailout de plus

 

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Posté par : dupilon le 20 Jan 2009, 11:40

Voici un graphique qui résume parfaitement la réalité économique actuelle . Les ménages US ont mis fin à plusieurs décennies d' expansion de leur endettement . Celui ci reste trés important , mais en voie de contraction, comme l' indique l' évolution du taux de croissance de la dette privée .

 

Conséquence directe , une cascade de faillites dans le secteur du retail , dont on a déja eu un avant gout récemment . Ces fermetures en série entrainent un défaut de paiement des obligations émises par les chaines de magasins en cessation de paiement , la perte d' une partie du patrimoine pour les investisseurs positionnés sur ces Bonds commerciaux , une hausse du cout du financement pour les entreprises survivantes , etc , etc , etc.......

 

 

 

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Posté par : Ray le 22 Jan 2009, 14:53

on devrait passer à 80% assez rapidement .....ce n'est pas clair et pas trés encourageant

 

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le graphique si dessous est trompeur 50T ce n'est pas que les ricains ...à ce stade c'et la  WW III

 

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